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	<title>Comments on: Biden&#8217;s Debate Gaffes (&amp; Lies) (Update 10/4) (Update 10/7 &#8211; now 27 items)</title>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Blame Us For The Bias, McCain Campaign Sucks . . . &#124; Counting Sheep</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Blame Us For The Bias, McCain Campaign Sucks . . . &#124; Counting Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] against masterful debater Joe Biden.  The same Joe Biden that sounded so knowledgeable because he made up most of his own facts.  The same Joe Biden that was given a pass on his gaffes, misstatements, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] against masterful debater Joe Biden.  The same Joe Biden that sounded so knowledgeable because he made up most of his own facts.  The same Joe Biden that was given a pass on his gaffes, misstatements, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: W. Lee Wirthlin</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Lee Wirthlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will not change their minds because they are like sheep.  It is mass hysteria, being led to the slaughter.   Nothing you nor I say will change their opinion of their &quot;man&quot;.  What gets me is why  he is even allowed to run?  He is not a natural born citizen, and should not have been allowed to run for the Senate.  I&#039;m sure that is under investigation also.  Someone slipped up there.  Surely this will be proven in the courts, and fast.  But there again , things are being delayed.  Purposely?  He keeps delaying going to court.  Goes to Hawaii as an excuse to see his Grandmother.

McCain is a good, honest, lawabiding man, but the masses don&#039;t care about character anymore.  They love lies, and anyone who will promise them the moon, knowing they  can&#039;t deliver.  Hey, who wants to work when the government will pay you  not to work?  Let  the people in America who make over $250,000 pay your wages for you.  You can then sit down to those nice lobster lunches that Michelle enjoys so!  

They believe every word Barack and Joe say .  That in itself is scary.  People, wake up.  Please question just one of the promises and you will find out for yourself he cannot deliver.  You hate Bush so much, you are letting yourself being led into unknown territory without even questioning anything.  That is why McCain is behind in the polls.  He doesn&#039;t promise what he cannot deliver.  What you hear coming out of his mouth is the truth.  He hasn&#039;t swept anything under the rug or told any of his friends to keep their mouth shut until after the election.  

I&#039;m coming on too strong I guess, but let me add, I am not one of the sheep, or couldn&#039;t you tell!!

Please edit or delete.  At least I got this off my shoulders.  I&#039;m not one to get on a soapbox, but this is my future, my 5 children&#039;s future and their spouses, 15 grandchildren&#039;s future, and the two unborn greatchildren we have due next Spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will not change their minds because they are like sheep.  It is mass hysteria, being led to the slaughter.   Nothing you nor I say will change their opinion of their &#8220;man&#8221;.  What gets me is why  he is even allowed to run?  He is not a natural born citizen, and should not have been allowed to run for the Senate.  I&#8217;m sure that is under investigation also.  Someone slipped up there.  Surely this will be proven in the courts, and fast.  But there again , things are being delayed.  Purposely?  He keeps delaying going to court.  Goes to Hawaii as an excuse to see his Grandmother.</p>
<p>McCain is a good, honest, lawabiding man, but the masses don&#8217;t care about character anymore.  They love lies, and anyone who will promise them the moon, knowing they  can&#8217;t deliver.  Hey, who wants to work when the government will pay you  not to work?  Let  the people in America who make over $250,000 pay your wages for you.  You can then sit down to those nice lobster lunches that Michelle enjoys so!  </p>
<p>They believe every word Barack and Joe say .  That in itself is scary.  People, wake up.  Please question just one of the promises and you will find out for yourself he cannot deliver.  You hate Bush so much, you are letting yourself being led into unknown territory without even questioning anything.  That is why McCain is behind in the polls.  He doesn&#8217;t promise what he cannot deliver.  What you hear coming out of his mouth is the truth.  He hasn&#8217;t swept anything under the rug or told any of his friends to keep their mouth shut until after the election.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m coming on too strong I guess, but let me add, I am not one of the sheep, or couldn&#8217;t you tell!!</p>
<p>Please edit or delete.  At least I got this off my shoulders.  I&#8217;m not one to get on a soapbox, but this is my future, my 5 children&#8217;s future and their spouses, 15 grandchildren&#8217;s future, and the two unborn greatchildren we have due next Spring.</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking into Obama&#039;s birth certificate ... fact check.com says itis ok. Just found out factcheck,com is supported by the Annandale Foundation - who is in bed with Obama.

How is McCain behind by so much if we are all blogging about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking into Obama&#8217;s birth certificate &#8230; fact check.com says itis ok. Just found out factcheck,com is supported by the Annandale Foundation &#8211; who is in bed with Obama.</p>
<p>How is McCain behind by so much if we are all blogging about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Townhall Debate Lies and Spin (Draft) &#124; Counting Sheep</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Townhall Debate Lies and Spin (Draft) &#124; Counting Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with work this week than last, but it has also been a more difficult task than creating the list of Biden&#8217;s gaffes and lies from the VP debate.  The VP debate was more confrontational, more fact based (as opposed to vague [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with work this week than last, but it has also been a more difficult task than creating the list of Biden&#8217;s gaffes and lies from the VP debate.  The VP debate was more confrontational, more fact based (as opposed to vague [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Biden&#8217;s Lies Medley, The Movie &#124; Counting Sheep</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Biden&#8217;s Lies Medley, The Movie &#124; Counting Sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another big thank you to Voice of Reason for his latest excellent video on Biden&#8217;s debate gaffes and lies. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another big thank you to Voice of Reason for his latest excellent video on Biden&#8217;s debate gaffes and lies. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://zerosheep.com/2008/10/03/bidens-debate-gaffes-lies/comment-page-1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be flip, but my favorite Biden gaffe was when he said, in reply to a question about what would happen if Obama died and he became POTUS,- drumbeat, please -  &quot;That would be a national tragedy&quot;.   Am I the only one who caught that?   I laughed so hard my wine came out of my nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be flip, but my favorite Biden gaffe was when he said, in reply to a question about what would happen if Obama died and he became POTUS,- drumbeat, please &#8211;  &#8220;That would be a national tragedy&#8221;.   Am I the only one who caught that?   I laughed so hard my wine came out of my nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis Gourdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis Gourdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks and again what we see or hear can be interpretive and I won&#039;t belabor the point.  I lived and went to school in Wilmington and know Joe Biden (now you can determine if that is personally, professionally, or as an acquaintance).   He is sometimes a wordy person, says things that are true as he knows it or remembers it.  He has served the state of Delaware well.  He will serve the United States of America well also even if Barack Obama can&#039;t muzzle him.  His heart is where the middle class people need his heart to be, his concerns are genuine for the middle class, he is not rich like McCain and he will have no trouble correcting his mistakes.  He will always put his Country First along with the middle class.  I&#039;m getting off my soap box and then say a pray Barack Obama and Joe Biden win because I believe they have given me hope (the prayer is backup).  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks and again what we see or hear can be interpretive and I won&#8217;t belabor the point.  I lived and went to school in Wilmington and know Joe Biden (now you can determine if that is personally, professionally, or as an acquaintance).   He is sometimes a wordy person, says things that are true as he knows it or remembers it.  He has served the state of Delaware well.  He will serve the United States of America well also even if Barack Obama can&#8217;t muzzle him.  His heart is where the middle class people need his heart to be, his concerns are genuine for the middle class, he is not rich like McCain and he will have no trouble correcting his mistakes.  He will always put his Country First along with the middle class.  I&#8217;m getting off my soap box and then say a pray Barack Obama and Joe Biden win because I believe they have given me hope (the prayer is backup).  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doh, low blow! Just kidding.

I agree about the Home Depot, and that&#039;s why I left it off.  As for Katie&#039;s being on Union St, I think that the way Biden said it made it sound like that: &quot;go down Union Street with me . . . and go to Katie’s Restaurant.&quot;  I note in the text that the transcript says &#039;or&#039; but that it sounds in the video like he says &#039;and.&#039;  

The mention of Katie&#039;s not being on Union St. is more of an aside, but I still think it is legitimate to mention -- I don&#039;t try to say that Biden said it was, I just present his words and then say that (1) Katie&#039;s closed, and (2) it&#039;s not on Union St.  

Read #5 again; I didn&#039;t try to connect all three, and I think what I did say was fair.  If you still see a problem with it, though, let me know.  And I would welcome a suggestion as to how to put it differently if you still think it misrepresents him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh, low blow! Just kidding.</p>
<p>I agree about the Home Depot, and that&#8217;s why I left it off.  As for Katie&#8217;s being on Union St, I think that the way Biden said it made it sound like that: &#8220;go down Union Street with me . . . and go to Katie’s Restaurant.&#8221;  I note in the text that the transcript says &#8216;or&#8217; but that it sounds in the video like he says &#8216;and.&#8217;  </p>
<p>The mention of Katie&#8217;s not being on Union St. is more of an aside, but I still think it is legitimate to mention &#8212; I don&#8217;t try to say that Biden said it was, I just present his words and then say that (1) Katie&#8217;s closed, and (2) it&#8217;s not on Union St.  </p>
<p>Read #5 again; I didn&#8217;t try to connect all three, and I think what I did say was fair.  If you still see a problem with it, though, let me know.  And I would welcome a suggestion as to how to put it differently if you still think it misrepresents him.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis Gourdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis Gourdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad what I think you are missing is that all three of these things were separate items.  Even if Biden had some kind of memory clog, the thought was different from the others.  Your attempt to connect all three was wrong.  You actually misrepresented what he said.  Something a lot of politicians do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad what I think you are missing is that all three of these things were separate items.  Even if Biden had some kind of memory clog, the thought was different from the others.  Your attempt to connect all three was wrong.  You actually misrepresented what he said.  Something a lot of politicians do!</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply getting the location of Katie&#039;s wrong would hardly be worth mentioning.  The larger point is that, in trying to make a point about being a man of the people, he suggesting going into a restaurant that has been closed for over 20 years.  A lot of people may remember Katie&#039;s, but I doubt many suggest to their acquaintances that they go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply getting the location of Katie&#8217;s wrong would hardly be worth mentioning.  The larger point is that, in trying to make a point about being a man of the people, he suggesting going into a restaurant that has been closed for over 20 years.  A lot of people may remember Katie&#8217;s, but I doubt many suggest to their acquaintances that they go there.</p>
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